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    Snitch hater 4 lyfe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by awful View Post
    well its really up to interpretation as to adrian limbo did what he did
    Well no, not really. There are a number of people on this board who've known him for many years and can tell you precisely why: if you want to blindly try to interpret, that's cool, but it might be easier just to talk to / ask one of the guys here.

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    Its not up to interpretation if you've known Adrian for the past 13+ years like alot of the people commenting negatively about him have...Adrian is not a hacker in any sense of the word and anything Kevin Poulsen writes about in regards to him can't be taken seriously because those two mutually support each other's egos/vanity

    Again, I agree with everything Koin/ have said...I would have typed word for word the same things Koin/ have in this thread....Manning deserves to go to jail, he endangered National Security...Lamo didn't snitch on him for the good of the country, he snitched on him for the good of himself and the potential publicity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zombie View Post
    The only way the press (or anybody else, for that matter) would ever have known that Lamo was the alleged informant would be if Lamo himself provided that information

    ^ Exactly.



    From left to right: Lamo, Mitnick, Poulsen

    Poulsen = the wired.com reporter who wrote the article

    Obviously Lamo told him the story. Lamo admits this so it's not like he's denying it.


    Who wants to bet money that the agents who acted on Lamo's provided evidence are shaking their heads right now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by koin View Post
    Who wants to bet money that the agents who acted on Lamo's provided evidence are shaking their heads right now?
    If I were a betting man, I'd put down on that.

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    what a fucking fuck. never snitch.
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    Lamo can you explain what happened?

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    I don't agree with snitches, but I think he did the right thing. You guys would rather protect each other than the country?
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    Quote Originally Posted by awful View Post
    well its really up to interpretation as to adrian limbo did what he did
    no way.

    http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/05/lamo/

    Ex-Hacker Adrian Lamo Institutionalized for Asperger’s

    By Kevin Poulsen


    ^ Yeah I'm sure this was necessary too. definitely need to keep wired.com up to date on what Adrian Lamo goes to the hospital for.

    Here's a good question: Why is Lamo still hanging out in parking lots? Aren't we past that at this point? 29 yrs old and hanging out in a parking lot with a backpack? Seriously?



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    i would like to see the cables
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zombie View Post
    The only way the press (or anybody else, for that matter) would ever have known that Lamo was the alleged informant would be if Lamo himself provided that information: only a handful of people on the .mil / .gov side would even have had access to the source's identity, and they're the kind of people who actually can keep secrets.

    It was his choice to go to the press and he did so for all the reasons O0O and Koin et al have suggested, much to the pointed consternation, I would imagine, of the feds who in all likelihood tried very hard to talk him down from that.

    But in the end, the lure of the spotlight is too much for some, and narcissism ain't an easy thing to fix. I wonder if Lamo can appreciate the irony of what he did: ratting on a guy for leaking sensitive information that ended up in the media, only to turn around and leak everything about a sensitive case... to the media. Heh.

    I'm fucking disappointed and disgusted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rob-beatz View Post
    ALWAYS KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT

    why give someone the opportunity to tell on you?

    they're both idiots

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    dude i can't believe there's not a xyrix reply in this thread yet ROFL
    it's coming though, you better believe it

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    Well wikileaks is defending Brad saying they do not know if he is the whistleblower but they are defending him. Check out recent tweets: http://twitter.com/wikileaks

    Save Bradley Manning facebook group: http://bit.ly/cRwuVc
    about 1 hour ago via bitly
    We do not know if Mr. Manning is our source, but the U.S. military is claiming he is so we will defend them.
    about 2 hours ago via bitly
    @6/@kpoulson There's a special place in hell reserved for "journalists" like you and "lawyers" like Barbara Olshansky
    about 2 hours ago via bitly
    Those interested in assisting the solider Bradley Manning write to savebradley@sunshinepress.org
    about 2 hours ago via bitly
    U.S. military confirm intelligence specialist arrest is over Collateral Murder video http://bit.ly/b0t6fW http://collateralmurder.com/
    about 4 hours ago via bitly
    U.S. intelligence analyst investigated for allegedly divulging classified information | WaPo http://bit.ly/bWcNOM
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    Fox News reporting WikiLeaks doctored the helicopter murder video
    about 6 hours ago via bit.ly
    An interesting take on the Bradley Manning arrest: http://bit.ly/aNpLb6
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    Did Wired break journalism's sacred oath? Lamo&Poulson call themselves journalists.Echoes of Olshansky shopping Diaz?
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    Adrian Lamo&Kevin Poulson are notorious felons,informers&manipulators. Journalists should take care. http://bit.ly/chFsGC
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    Statement: Washington Post had Collateral murder video for over a year but DID NOT RELEASE IT it to the public.
    about 14 hours ago via bit.ly
    If Brad Manning,22,is the "Collateral Murder" & Garani massacre whistleblower then, without doubt, he's a national hero.
    about 16 hours ago via bit.ly
    Allegations in Wired that we have been sent 260,000 classified US embassy cables are, as far as we can tell, incorrect.
    about 17 hours ago via bit.ly
    We never collect personal information on our sources, so we are are unable as yet to confirm the Manning story.
    about 17 hours ago via bit.ly

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    Lets take the limelight off of Adrian for a minute. In all actually do you think leaking the video was wrong? I can't say that in good consciousness I could have kept this a secret. If you saw the military kill dozens of innocent citizens would you be capable of harboring that sort of secret? I don't think I could, and the only reason to keep it a secret would be because the military doesn't want negative PR.

    What Adrian Lamo did wasn't just wrong because he's a snitch but it's wrong on every philosophical level. What I mean to that is that I can completely understand why wikileaks is calling him a terrorist, because the things we do in those countries are an examples of acts of the terrorism we're suppose to be fighting against. America is the biggest terrorist cell in the world. The citizens of America deserve to know what our military is doing to "protect" our country. Lets take a moment and really consider that.
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    srsly royalty i'd watch it. he might hack you with his browser.

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    I think we already had a long drawn out thread regarding the "collateral murder" video and why it doesn't accurately portray what really happened in combat that day. If you want to get into that debate again, I'm game, cause I'm bored...and I would love to see rox waste some more funbux money

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    Quote Originally Posted by Royalty View Post
    Lets take the limelight off of Adrian for a minute. In all actually do you think leaking the video was wrong? I can't say that in good consciousness I could have kept this a secret. If you saw the military kill dozens of innocent citizens would you be capable of harboring that sort of secret? I don't think I could, and the only reason to keep it a secret would be because the military doesn't want negative PR.

    What Adrian Lamo did wasn't just wrong because he's a snitch but it's wrong on every philosophical level. What I mean to that is that I can completely understand why wikileaks is calling him a terrorist, because the things we do in those countries are an examples of acts of the terrorism we're suppose to be fighting against. America is the biggest terrorist cell in the world. The citizens of America deserve to know what our military is doing to "protect" our country. Lets take a moment and really consider that.

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    I'd much rather not. I'm just voicing an opinion. The Internet is a poor medium for debates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by koin View Post
    Yes leaking the video was wrong and you're an idiot
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royalty View Post
    ^^ See what I mean? You got amazing well thought out answers like this.
    not going into detail and explaining myself, do as ZD said and search the forum for a thread that is older than your membership

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    Quote Originally Posted by koin View Post
    not going into detail and explaining myself, do as ZD said and search the forum for a thread that is older than your membership

    sick of those who don't appreciate how great this country is. we are all so lucky that we can live in peace without wondering if today will be the last day we have here. everyone's too busy worrying about things that you have no control over. things that are going on to ensure we remain free the way we are.

    do yourself a favor and think real hard about why mexicans are taking the chance of being SHOT DEAD just to cross that border and get into this country every single day
    This is really not a debate I'd rather get into but our country is in shambles, just because everyone is too placated by their iPod and MTV to notice that there are things that are seriously going wrong with our country doesn't mean that it's not happening.

    The argument "Oh there are worse countries than ours" is a poor one too. Our country may not be the worst but it most certainly isn't the best either. But I suppose if we're "thankful" and just ignore the problems they'll go away right?

    That's really all I'm going to say regarding that, as I've said earlier the Internet is a poor medium for debate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rob-beatz View Post
    ALWAYS KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT

    why give someone the opportunity to tell on you?

    they're both idiots
    ^^^

    Never work with people you "trust" not to snitch. Work with people you trust not to get caught.

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    A+ Ownage koin. LOL'd hard at his facebook wall. You all might consider going to http://www.formspring.me/disinformation and submitting 'you are a snitch' or something similar repeatedly.

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    just asked him how it feels to be a snitch
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    Quote Originally Posted by koin View Post
    sick of those who don't appreciate how great this country is.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality-of-life_index (lol gdp/gender equality/climate)
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    things that are going on to ensure we remain free the way we are
    http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...ers-per-capita

    attention american citizens
    your government loves and protects you
    you are free
    you live in the best country in the world
    go back to sleep
    attention american citizens
    your government loves and protects you
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    you live in the best country in the world
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    attention american citizens
    your government loves and protects you
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    you live in the best country in the world
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    attention american citizens
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    you live in the best country in the world
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    attention american citizens
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    attention american citizens
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    Default Manning, Lamo, Poulsen: The Three Transparent (and incompetent) Stooges.

    Bets should be on the likelihood that the backlash is a surprise to the three boys involved. They, all three, through information publicly provided by them, appear to be delusional and self-serving. Subsequently, they canít realize how transparent theyíre becoming.

    The naive Bradley Manning didnít quite conduct himself respectably, professionally, or in a manner that would denote he had true intentions. Given the specifics in what he has said to Lamo, it just doesnít make sense that he was truly trying to uncover what is without a doubt, a terrible tragedy. Manning wasnít trying to show the world a tragic murder cover-up of known Reuters employees. He wasnít trying to show us the gung-ho unprofessional demeanor and impaired judgment of soldiers unable to control their adrenaline-fueled emotions. Instead, he was trying to be cool. And for some foolish reason, he erroneously thought Adrian Lamo was actually respected, and similarly cool enough to confide in. Manning may be the dumbest quasi-whistleblower ever, but nevertheless, what is out now is proving to be good and right.

    Manning is himself a fool for thinking someone like Adrian Lamo, a person known to be obsessively self-serving and righteous, would not turn him in. However, Lamo is an even bigger fool. Adrian Lamo is a confused, troubled, attention-infatuated egomaniac. There are plenty of reputable sources with personal accounts that can corroborate this basic summary of Lame-oís character.

    Adrianís intentions here are absolutely transparent- as they typically are. Heís an ambitious, most manipulative media hound, and itís clear. What better way to propel his image, as seems to be the goal in his life, than to intertwine himself with an intelligence community scandal in a specially-crafted manner. This was a golden opportunity for him. Manningís confession was his long-awaited opportunity to finally try and introduce some real IC cred to his amateur experiences. Alas for Adrian, heís too see-through.

    Adrian is trying hard to trick people (government and public) into thinking that heís not really the same sociopath stalker-type that the police have documented in the past. Heís trying to win over the hard right. Heís trying to convince the feds that he should be regarded as a valuable asset, versus some amateur that claims to have had good intentions as an ďex-hackerĒ. Before Kevin Poulsen had full coddling privileges over Lamo at Wired, the tech news service themselves ran an in-depth report outlining the unstable and unskilled kid. It wasnít in Adrianís favor, and itís now buried somewhere on Wiredís servers. Itís clear whatís going on here. Heís looking for acceptance and image-superiority.

    The actions and Internet activity/history of Adrian Lamo himself depict the fact that he is truly an egomaniacal sociopath that must have his high dose of attention before he can sleep well. Whether itís his slight moves throughout Wikipedia (even his own change history), his twitter stream, or comments to his beloved media handler: Kevin ďIím a Proven-Highly-Manipulative-Stalker-Type TooĒ Poulsen, the truth is revealed via logs of his own self-serving actions. Itís perfectly clear. His twitter stream often gives you that feeling where you feel embarrassed for someone else. Itís cringing. You can see hints of this even lately. Look for his tweet about Proxy Hunter, the software tool he used for most of his past network intrusions. The tweet was written in a semi-joking manner, but he wasnít joking at all. Things like that arenít a joke to him folks. Because of his embarrassingly exaggerated sense of self-importance, he believes deep down that he increased the visibility of that software title and thus feels the need to joke about it in a way that caresses his ego. Itís laughable...and sad.

    Naivety seems to be the theme for Lamo and Manning. Lamo claims he turned Manning in for national security reasons. This explanation wont cut it. Everything is beginning to pile against Adrian. This could have been handled in many other ways. Instead, Adrian conducts a strategic plan to break this news for Poulsen. As soon as the vital real-time moments of this case began to dissipate, with the help of Poulsen, Adrian publicly admits to the media that he was responsible for Manningís arrest. As if it were something respectable. One would be inclined to think that as a former journalist, and a claimed ex-hacker (much like Poulsenís path), Adrian would be more sensitive to such issues of secrecy. Did his short time as a journalist not teach him the significant importance of keeping sources confidential? Even though Manning didnít approach Lamo as a journalist, the values as a past journalist should have kicked in. Issues need to be revealed, but due to various and obvious positioning problems, you canít always take credit. With Adrian though...hey, heíll gladly take credit. He even thought it was necessary to put out a press release to convene a press conference for his official response to the breaking news. Who does that?

    If Adrian felt bad, heíd stop talking to the media so openly. Why is Adrian talking so much in the first place? Well thatís easy...First, he talked to try and propel his image and secondly, per-backlash, heís talking to try and preserve his image. Except now, heís slipping. Even his very latest words to journalists are inconsistent, obviously not well-thought out, and contradictory. His lies are becoming so complex, that he can no longer keep track.

    Still, now, Adrian is leaving us with quotes to the media that indicate he is tangled in his own web of lies. Specifically, as seen in a recent article by the BBC, after pitying himself and trying to defend his actions, he goes on to say ďI did tell him that I worked as a journalist. I would have been happy to write about him myself, but we just decided that it would be too unethical.Ē OF COURSE Adrian would be happy to write about Manning himself. It shows clear disregard for the seriousness of this case. It shows Adrian is instead too caught up with his own profiteering to realize the degree of severity that his selfish actions could result in. Adrian said himself that as soon as Bradley Manning gave him the information, that it was a ďsuicide pact.Ē And yet he is quoted elsewhere saying that the decision was agonizing. Come on. Adrian has been so deep in his own shit for such a long time, that he canít smell it anymore. The hacker community knows this.

    Adrian says he feels bad and that he agonized over the decision to out Manning. But the truth is, he doesnít feel bad and he knew right away what he was going to do with this opportunity. And, among other reasons, he says he went public with it because he felt Manning should know who flipped him? Come on, come up with something better. Manning would have known this straight away anyway- whether through logic or Adrianís testimony in future court hearings. Adrian is a pathological liar.

    This so-called ex-hacker likes to recite that ďYou can calculate the worth of a man by the caliber of his enemies.Ē That is such classic, expected behavior and response from someone as arrogant as Adrian Lamo.

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    Default Manning, Lamo, Poulsen: The Three Transparent (and incompetent) Stooges.

    Nobody in the underground hacker community or the federal government, actually respects Lamo. The people that facilitate his unwarranted image are merely amateurs or victims of manipulation. The people on his Facebook and twitter are merely wanna-bes. And the actual respectable people, from names like Steve Wozniak and 2600 to reputed journalists, that were tricked into believing heís a good, skillful person, have lost credibility and respect themselves. They were too easily manipulated. There is no real reason to respect this guy. They didnít do their research. Heís been dismissed by respectable hackers in both the underground and white-hat world. Ranum sniffed the impostor out immediately. How others failed to see sooner, is a shame.

    What weíre witnessing here is an active egomaniac. Adrian will try to tie himself to anyone or anything that will make it look like heís an actual respected hacker with skills. He is not. It is unfortunate that sometimes this truth is overshadowed by his obsessive efforts to increase his image to whatever heights he thinks will make him feel good that day. He does not have aspergers...Heís either been ruined since birth, or from his alleged heavy drug use in the past. Likely a combination of both. He just wants the connotation of the sometimes positive and magical traits that some sufferers of aspergers exhibit. Heís one of those guys that will Google Alert his own name. He reads the comments belonging to all of the articleís heís been written about in. He probably thinks heís got a good in with the feds now, but they all know Adrian is a nut-case. They all despise him just as the real hacker community does. The feds love dumb-ass, excitable children like Adrian, as assets. Thatís as far as heíll get. Just another puppet...except heíll be the one manipulated now. Lamo may be the dumbest quasi-hacker ever, but nevertheless, what is out now is proving to be good and right.

    As for Poulsen, itís documented that he was always the more malicious and manipulative type. Itís still surprising that respectable companies would even tolerate and consider the proximity of someone like him. Heís been known as a weirdo for decades, so there is no point in speculating on his actions in depth. He just doesnít care about anyone but himself. I canít give him much credit in the way of weighing out his moral barometer in this latest situation, but Adrian, who is supposed to have meticulous morals as a real hacker does at least manipulate the situation so that this is all questionable. Theyíre both extremely good at manipulation, but theyíre also so deep into themselves. Itís hard for them to see how theyíre carrying themselves- and with this comes severe denial.

    Kevin Poulsenís twitter response to Wikileaks shows his ignorance. The question is whether or not he meant to be ignorant. He responded to an issue completely irrelevant from the heart of the Wikileaks tweet. Kevin knew that Wikileaks wasnít responding to the actual fact that he reported on the arrest. He knew that they were criticizing him for not exercising better judgment as a former hacker and journalist, like Adrian, whose professional philosophies and morals should have over-rided/lent empathy and sensitivity to the situation. Then again, it is known that Poulsen never had any real moral set throughout his years of hacking.

    Manning was wrong and reckless. This whole situation is just ugly, and thatís what happens when such shady characters are involved. Itís arguable that what Adrian did was the right thing to do, however, his selfish intent negates any of these positive facts. On the other side, while what Manning leaked was very important and welcomed, he should be disciplined because his selfish intent also negates many potential positives.

    Wikileaks hit it right on the head, Adrian Lamo and Kevin Poulsen are both notorious informers and manipulators with no regard for anyone but themselves. The underground hacker community and feds know this. What isnít known is why/how Kevin and Adrian became so close. They are documented to be very similar- perhaps they saw the same traits in each other, and developed a rapport over such. One wonders if Adrian and Kevin just enjoy the occasional tryst? By the way, whereíd Lamoís wife go?

    Adrian Lamo and Kevin Poulsen have both manipulated people on a personal and professional level. Evan Hansen is blind. Adrian Lamo outed more than just Bradley Manning. He outed himself as well.

    As someone said of this story before, there is indeed no honor among these three thieves.
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    i can't wait for him to be in zf0 or another zine

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    In May 2010 at age 29, he was diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome.[8]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Lamo

    fucking autism

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    In May 2010 at age 29, he was diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome.[8]

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    Bunch of terrorist anti-americans in here. Suppporting the guy leaking info to get soldiers killed wtf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TehPrawntier View Post
    Bunch of terrorist anti-americans in here. Suppporting the guy leaking info to get soldiers killed wtf.
    you clearly didn't read it bud
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    Quote Originally Posted by rox View Post
    i can't wait for him to be in zf0 or another zine
    neither can he
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    Quote Originally Posted by pad View Post
    neither can he
    shit, that burned me.

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    the responses here make me want to smh and lol at the same time

    koin im hoping you were being sarcastic. you said we are too busy worrying about things we have no control over. and then you follow it up with saying things that are going on to ensure we remain free the way we are.

    deep inside your heart you really believe that? so you can honestly say with a true heart and mind that this country is not slowly taking our freedom away? its like youre agreeing with them to lie to us to keep us happy and peaceful. throughout history shit hits the fan and people end up finding the truth anyway (the video for example) so why not tell the truth at the beginning? its like the government is a child and the people are the parents and they tell a lie on top of a lie till no more lies can be told. and you find this acceptable? how is this benefiting you that they are covering up and classifying bullshit like this? if anything the secrecy of the country is making it worse.


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    Quote Originally Posted by koin View Post
    not going into detail and explaining myself, do as ZD said and search the forum for a thread that is older than your membership

    sick of those who don't appreciate how great this country is. we are all so lucky that we can live in peace without wondering if today will be the last day we have here. everyone's too busy worrying about things that you have no control over. things that are going on to ensure we remain free the way we are.

    do yourself a favor and think real hard about why mexicans are taking the chance of being SHOT DEAD just to cross that border and get into this country every single day
    true... But no Mexicans being shot down @ our borders
    Canada is the same way except we've done alot less stupid things since our past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by technetrium View Post
    true... But no Mexicans being shot down @ our borders
    ...what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pad View Post
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality-of-life_index (lol gdp/gender equality/climate)

    http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...ers-per-capita

    attention american citizens
    your government loves and protects you
    you are free
    you live in the best country in the world
    go back to sleep
    attention american citizens
    your government loves and protects you
    you are free
    you live in the best country in the world
    go back to sleep
    attention american citizens
    your government loves and protects you
    you are free
    you live in the best country in the world
    go back to sleep
    attention american citizens
    your government loves and protects you
    you are free
    you live in the best country in the world
    go back to sleep
    attention american citizens
    your government loves and protects you
    you are free
    you live in the best country in the world
    go back to sleep
    attention american citizens
    your government loves and protects you
    you are free
    you live in the best country in the world
    go back to sleep

    I wake up happy knowing I live in canada.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tnbryan View Post
    the responses here make me want to smh and lol at the same time

    koin im hoping you were being sarcastic. you said we are too busy worrying about things we have no control over. and then you follow it up with saying things that are going on to ensure we remain free the way we are.

    deep inside your heart you really believe that? so you can honestly say with a true heart and mind that this country is not slowly taking our freedom away? its like youre agreeing with them to lie to us to keep us happy and peaceful. throughout history shit hits the fan and people end up finding the truth anyway (the video for example) so why not tell the truth at the beginning? its like the government is a child and the people are the parents and they tell a lie on top of a lie till no more lies can be told. and you find this acceptable? how is this benefiting you that they are covering up and classifying bullshit like this? if anything the secrecy of the country is making it worse.
    I'm going to tell you the same thing I tell the rest of the anti american idiots who don't like what's going on around us

    go move to another country if you don't like it. go move to mexico and see what it's like when your daughter is kidnapped at gunpoint cause someone wants to sell her for drug money.

    we're free for a reason, sure we all may not agree with everything that goes on but if you think our country is bad, take a look at the middle east. take a look at north korea. take a look at fucking china. they'll execute a teenager for shoplifting in some countries. you think we should adopt customs like that? you're mad that we shoot immigrants that try to infiltrate our borders? you're mad about the patriot act? has the patriot act ever fucking affected you or your immediate family?

    cause I've had my house raided 4 fucking times, and here I am standing up saying I'm glad the patriot act exists. I'm not a terrorist, and that was quickly determined when 2 dozen secret service agents surrounded my house and blocked off my street and broke the front door in only to find out I was a 15 year old punk who didn't give a fuck about anything.

    bitching and moaning about the little freedoms that they transform into law enforcement tactics does absolutely nothing but cause stress and frustration for the masses. you don't know what is going on behind closed doors, you don't know about the thousands of threats to our homeland that the government intercepts on a daily basis. you don't know what homeland security is doing to ensure there isn't another attack on our soil.

    all you do know is that you're safe, you're not going to die in a suicide bombing this afternoon because someone is on a jihad mission was brainwashed by *their governing authority*.
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    Quote Originally Posted by technetrium View Post
    true... But no Mexicans being shot down @ our borders
    Canada is the same way except we've done alot less stupid things since our past.
    every nation handles their borders differently, not saying one way is better than another, but there are reasons for the immigration policies that our country adopts. if canada had mexico touching it's border, smuggling illicit drugs into your cities, you'd be bucking off shots too big guy.
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